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	<title>Comments on: Sparkle City Headlines: Municipal Election Year Shuffle</title>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
		<link>http://www.spartanburgspark.com/2009/11/12/sparkle-city-headlines-municipal-election-year-shuffle/comment-page-1/#comment-7686</link>
		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is well after the fact of the article.....but I would say that I don&#039;t see anything wrong with Jason Spencer&#039;s decision not to mention race (or to focus on political party) in his article. 

Steve suggests that higher black voter turnout would &quot;change the dynamic&quot; in local politics and government. But the fact is that -- in fact, BECAUSE of the single-member district Steve pointed to -- representation from black and white neighborhoods is pretty much locked in. Jerome Rice, for example, ran unopposed in a majority-black, single-member district; higher turnout wouldn&#039;t have made a difference. There were two African-American District 7 school board members up for re-election....they, too, ran unopposed in majority-black districts.

In majority-white districts, meanwhile, the issue of black voter turnout matters very little. Would Thomas Belenchia have defeated Cate Ryba if more African-Americans voted? I very seriously doubt it. (And regarding &quot;political dynamics,&quot; In fact, Belenchia positioned himself as the more &quot;conservative&quot; candidate -- and still lost.) 

Where race might really matter would be if there were NOT single-member districts and the vote was still at-large. Higher black turnout could make a difference in a City-wide election (which raises the obvious question: if African-Americans are in the majority in the City, would they have been better off -- by 2009, anyway -- if the NAACP had not pushed for single-member districts?). Of course, in the Mayor&#039;s race this year, the notion has been presented that the black community rallied around Junie White and begged him to run. Not sure if that&#039;s totally correct, though several black leaders clearly did ask him to run.....but the point is that the will of the black community was, according to popular perception, served in that City-wide race. 

Anyway, it may be that pushing municipal elections to regular election cycles makes sense. And it also may be that such a move would lead to larger voter turnout on the part of African-Americans. But I don&#039;t think it would change the political dynamic much at all, since single-member districts have things pretty well locked in as it is (for better or worse). So I don&#039;t find fault in this regard with Spencer&#039;s article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is well after the fact of the article&#8230;..but I would say that I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with Jason Spencer&#8217;s decision not to mention race (or to focus on political party) in his article. </p>
<p>Steve suggests that higher black voter turnout would &#8220;change the dynamic&#8221; in local politics and government. But the fact is that &#8212; in fact, BECAUSE of the single-member district Steve pointed to &#8212; representation from black and white neighborhoods is pretty much locked in. Jerome Rice, for example, ran unopposed in a majority-black, single-member district; higher turnout wouldn&#8217;t have made a difference. There were two African-American District 7 school board members up for re-election&#8230;.they, too, ran unopposed in majority-black districts.</p>
<p>In majority-white districts, meanwhile, the issue of black voter turnout matters very little. Would Thomas Belenchia have defeated Cate Ryba if more African-Americans voted? I very seriously doubt it. (And regarding &#8220;political dynamics,&#8221; In fact, Belenchia positioned himself as the more &#8220;conservative&#8221; candidate &#8212; and still lost.) </p>
<p>Where race might really matter would be if there were NOT single-member districts and the vote was still at-large. Higher black turnout could make a difference in a City-wide election (which raises the obvious question: if African-Americans are in the majority in the City, would they have been better off &#8212; by 2009, anyway &#8212; if the NAACP had not pushed for single-member districts?). Of course, in the Mayor&#8217;s race this year, the notion has been presented that the black community rallied around Junie White and begged him to run. Not sure if that&#8217;s totally correct, though several black leaders clearly did ask him to run&#8230;..but the point is that the will of the black community was, according to popular perception, served in that City-wide race. </p>
<p>Anyway, it may be that pushing municipal elections to regular election cycles makes sense. And it also may be that such a move would lead to larger voter turnout on the part of African-Americans. But I don&#8217;t think it would change the political dynamic much at all, since single-member districts have things pretty well locked in as it is (for better or worse). So I don&#8217;t find fault in this regard with Spencer&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie Galloway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvie Galloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was little to no encouragement to go vote in this latest election. Like Steve I only had one position to vote. Sadly I forgot about the day until later in the morning and work prevented me from getting to the polls before they closed.

From my limited perspective the only news outlet that was really giving the election any coverage was the Spark and we have Steve and Chris to thank for that. I saw more about all the candidates for all positions here then anywhere else. It was true last year as I used the data Steve had so thoughtfully dug up for me to decide on state positions. I was really having a hard time finding a good source to do comparisons elsewhere, plus information about any local or state referendums of which there was one.

Personally I would prefer voting for more then one thing on election day. If done right, people can get all they need on local issues as well as state and national. I thing The Spark did an excellent job this year.

 I am not quite sure how staffing and rental issues are paid for holding actual elections and who&#039;s budget they come out of, but it sure seems a waste to hold elections so people can maybe vote for one small thing and the turn out be so lousy cause no one really new any info. Way to make good use of one&#039;s budgeted tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was little to no encouragement to go vote in this latest election. Like Steve I only had one position to vote. Sadly I forgot about the day until later in the morning and work prevented me from getting to the polls before they closed.</p>
<p>From my limited perspective the only news outlet that was really giving the election any coverage was the Spark and we have Steve and Chris to thank for that. I saw more about all the candidates for all positions here then anywhere else. It was true last year as I used the data Steve had so thoughtfully dug up for me to decide on state positions. I was really having a hard time finding a good source to do comparisons elsewhere, plus information about any local or state referendums of which there was one.</p>
<p>Personally I would prefer voting for more then one thing on election day. If done right, people can get all they need on local issues as well as state and national. I thing The Spark did an excellent job this year.</p>
<p> I am not quite sure how staffing and rental issues are paid for holding actual elections and who&#8217;s budget they come out of, but it sure seems a waste to hold elections so people can maybe vote for one small thing and the turn out be so lousy cause no one really new any info. Way to make good use of one&#8217;s budgeted tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Shanafelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Shanafelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too. We&#039;d surely see higher turnout if there were actual contests rather than a bunch of foregone conclusions. As I noted in a post shortly after the election, it was a little deflating to put in a so much effort for the election coverage only to be able to vote for a single office in my district. I didn&#039;t even have school board candidates to vote on.

It&#039;s hard to get motivated to vote when your vote itself appears to mean nothing because there&#039;s only one person on the ballot. That&#039;s another argument for changing the local election years, as there will be hotly contested state and national elections, even if the local ones are non-contests that year.

The other factor is making the public aware of just what&#039;s at stake in these local elections, and that their voices really do matter. That&#039;s a large part of what we&#039;re trying to do here on the Spark, and it&#039;s obviously something that&#039;s on Jason Spencer&#039;s radar. There&#039;s been an encouraging trend of local political discussion happening -- the local Drinking Liberally chapter comes to mind as one grassroots effort -- but there&#039;s clearly a lot of work to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too. We&#8217;d surely see higher turnout if there were actual contests rather than a bunch of foregone conclusions. As I noted in a post shortly after the election, it was a little deflating to put in a so much effort for the election coverage only to be able to vote for a single office in my district. I didn&#8217;t even have school board candidates to vote on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to get motivated to vote when your vote itself appears to mean nothing because there&#8217;s only one person on the ballot. That&#8217;s another argument for changing the local election years, as there will be hotly contested state and national elections, even if the local ones are non-contests that year.</p>
<p>The other factor is making the public aware of just what&#8217;s at stake in these local elections, and that their voices really do matter. That&#8217;s a large part of what we&#8217;re trying to do here on the Spark, and it&#8217;s obviously something that&#8217;s on Jason Spencer&#8217;s radar. There&#8217;s been an encouraging trend of local political discussion happening &#8212; the local Drinking Liberally chapter comes to mind as one grassroots effort &#8212; but there&#8217;s clearly a lot of work to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important thing is to get people informed and involved. A vote isn&#039;t a representative sample of the population, it&#039;s those that care enough to show up. What&#039;s more troublesome to me is the number of offices that run unopposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important thing is to get people informed and involved. A vote isn&#8217;t a representative sample of the population, it&#8217;s those that care enough to show up. What&#8217;s more troublesome to me is the number of offices that run unopposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Shanafelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Shanafelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting theory, and it&#039;s certainly not too much to ask for citizens to spend a few moments each year participating in the democratic process. But embarrassingly low voter turnout is evidence that it doesn&#039;t work, at least from the perspective of getting a representative sample of the population to show up to vote.

I absolutely agree with you that local elections need to get out of the shadow of national party politics. The local level is the only place where a handful of citizens without significant financial support can make real change in their communities. It&#039;s more important in many ways than anything at the national level.

I&#039;m just not sure that off-year elections are the best way -- or even a very good way -- of bringing people into that process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting theory, and it&#8217;s certainly not too much to ask for citizens to spend a few moments each year participating in the democratic process. But embarrassingly low voter turnout is evidence that it doesn&#8217;t work, at least from the perspective of getting a representative sample of the population to show up to vote.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree with you that local elections need to get out of the shadow of national party politics. The local level is the only place where a handful of citizens without significant financial support can make real change in their communities. It&#8217;s more important in many ways than anything at the national level.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not sure that off-year elections are the best way &#8212; or even a very good way &#8212; of bringing people into that process.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like having an election every year. I agree with Mr Baum that it helps make a habit. I like short lines and having oftentimes the candidates right there to talk with at the polling station. Local elections are so important I think that it&#039;s good to focus away from the shadow of national party politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like having an election every year. I agree with Mr Baum that it helps make a habit. I like short lines and having oftentimes the candidates right there to talk with at the polling station. Local elections are so important I think that it&#8217;s good to focus away from the shadow of national party politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Shanafelt</title>
		<link>http://www.spartanburgspark.com/2009/11/12/sparkle-city-headlines-municipal-election-year-shuffle/comment-page-1/#comment-7032</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Shanafelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also note that the Herald-Journal really dropped the ball on when they ran this article. Had it been prior to the election -- you know, when people could actually vote for candidates who supported the idea of changing the local election schedule -- it would have been useful. We covered it, and we put it right in the center of our election coverage, but the SH-J is mentioning when it&#039;s too late to actually do anything about it. That&#039;s a big missed opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also note that the Herald-Journal really dropped the ball on when they ran this article. Had it been prior to the election &#8212; you know, when people could actually vote for candidates who supported the idea of changing the local election schedule &#8212; it would have been useful. We covered it, and we put it right in the center of our election coverage, but the SH-J is mentioning when it&#8217;s too late to actually do anything about it. That&#8217;s a big missed opportunity.</p>
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